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Category:Old Spice Classic

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge to all parents, i.e. Category:College men's basketball competitions in the United States, Category:Sports in Orlando, Florida and Category:Walt Disney World. There is a clear consensus that this single-article category should not be retained, but no argument in favour of removing the article from the categories parents.
Please may I remind editors that when they believe a category is inappropriate, thy should check carefully whether deletion will remove articles from any relevant parent categories. If so, the category should be merged rather than deleted. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:22, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Too little content; contains one article, Old Spice Classic, and expansion seems unlikely.. Trivialist (talk) 21:58, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Don Cannon

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 03:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. No need for eponymous parent cat for albums already properly categorized in albums by producer scheme. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Orhan Gencebay

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 03:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Eponymous category for basically one article. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:48, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Los Prisioneros

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The result of the discussion was: keep per the consensus that this category has enough content not to be too small per WP:SMALLCAT ... and {{minnow}} for the nominator for neither checking these points beforehand nor even citing the relevant guideline WP:SMALLCAT. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:29, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:45, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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New Wikipedians

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The result of the discussion was: result. The Bushranger One ping only 03:36, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting:

Nominator's rationale:

Dead administration categories. I had a look at the registration dates of numerous users in the parent - thanks Popups! - and they range from 2006 to 2008; it's not being updated. The subcategory is for a single month in 2011, with a single user in it; apparently created through the outreach:Account Creation Improvement Project, a project which went nowhere. — Hex (❝?!❞) 19:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Afghan athletes

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The result of the discussion was: result. The Bushranger One ping only 03:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename Category:Afghan athletes to Category:Afghan athletes (track and field)
  • Nominator's rationale In the closing of the last discussion on this it was claimed "no evidence has been presented that people outside of North America use athelte for general sportspeople". Well this [1] is an article from an on-line newspaper based in Afghanistan that has as its title "Afghan Taekwondo athlete defeats his Moroccan rival". I am pretty sure Taekwondo is not considered part of the sport of athletics, so clearly people in Afghanistan are using the term more generally, thus we should rename to avoid ambiguity. This article [2] from Afghan voice also seems to be using athlete=sportsman. At least the assumption seems to be that any olympic participant is an athlete, and I am not usre that either taekwondo or power lifting or even boxing would be considered part of the sport of athletics. Then there is this Bakhtar News article [3] that seems to assume any participant in the olympics is an athlete. So it seems obvious that publications in Afghanistan use athlete to equal sportsperson. They are not using it to only mean people participating in athletics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:18, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question And is there evidence yet that members of this category Waheed Karim and Abdul Baser Wasiqi are considered track and field athletes? --Qetuth (talk) 02:04, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is clear evidence that the way this category name is being used is not the way the term is used in Afghanistan. If you could come up with a better solution, we would consider it. However no one has, so this works. At least in American English I would consider those people track and field athletes, and since the Afghan users seem to be following American usages, I would guess that they would too. I have clearly demonstrated that the current category name does not work in the way people in Afghanistan use English.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support neutralization of the category name, and removing ambiguity in the naming of non-English localities, where the particular variety of English cannot be referneced to deambiguate the term -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Brand New

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The result of the discussion was: rename per nominator to Category:Brand New (band). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:34, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename Category:Brand New to Category:Brand New (band)
  • Nominator's rationale This looks on first clance like it is Category:Brand new, a category for putting very recent things in. We need to rename it so it is clear that the category is referring to a band.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Overly ambiguous category names lead to maintenance headaches. Seems that some new users would categorize their new articles into this. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 06:39, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait I probably support either way, but believe this should not be closed until after the requested move is concluded. --Qetuth (talk) 01:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • However as was pointed out by the IP there are maitenance issues here that would not really come up in the page. It is much easier to maintain pages than categories. So there is a strong argument to rename the category even if the page name is not changed. While I certainly hope the page name changes, there is not a concensus to do so (if they go with a strict vote, it is tied right now, well, I guess maybe one more for change if you count the nominator, of course I would hope the arguments about why the current name is leading to over searching would convince people there should be a change, but it seems like fans of the band are involved and feel it will be an insult to the band to not let it just have the name stand on its own). So I do not think this should have be tied to having to follow the rename of the page, because frankly it is much worse to have a badly names category, because people using hot cat to add categories or adding them in some other way never have to go and see what the category is, you have to at least click on the article before editing it, making it harder to put information in an article out of ignorance that it does not go there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:53, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom and JPL. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Templates for peripheries (Kallikratis)

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The result of the discussion was: relisted at CfD January 30. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per main article Modern regions of Greece and other cats at Greece subdivision templates Constantine ✍ 15:00, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Biblical criticism

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The result of the discussion was: rename all to the lowercase format as used by the relevant workgroup: Wikipedia:WikiProject Bible/Biblical criticism work group. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Att he moment, we have two parallel groups of cats for this project (or actually a workgroup, the Wikipedia:WikiProject Bible/Biblical criticism work group), with different capitalization. These need to be merged (the first two), and two cats need to be renamed (the last two). While my preference is for the direction as suggested, I have no real problem if people prefer the mergers to go in the other direction; however, this will mean that a lot more cats (currently not tagged) will need to be renamen instead. Fram (talk) 14:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nizhny Novgorod Oblast geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Dawynn (talk) 14:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Delete this premature stub category and upmerge template. No prejudice against recreating category once article count permits. Dawynn (talk) 13:42, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rostov Oblast geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Dawynn (talk) 14:16, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Delete this premature stub category and upmerge template. No prejudice against recreating category once article count permits. Dawynn (talk) 13:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kirov Oblast geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Dawynn (talk) 14:16, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Delete this premature stub category and upmerge template. No prejudice against recreating category once article count permits. Dawynn (talk) 13:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
From the proposal in 2011 it looks like this category had 63 articles when created and was marked by nom as having become undersized in March 2012, and has since shrunk further to its current 14, so I'd hardly describe that as 'nothing else but grow'. The nominator did wait 10 months from marking it undersized until nominating it for deletion, and there is no influx of newly created articles that would imply we should expect future growth. --Qetuth (talk) 13:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point, and I can't explain why the counts would go down. Perhaps some of the stubs were expanded to the point where they no longer need to be marked as stubs (which is a good thing). My point, however, is that there are literally hundreds and hundreds of articles qualifying for inclusion into this category (as well as the other two on this page), which are yet to be created (and slowly are). With that in mind, the counts will definitely go up once again. Upmerging/splitting/upmerging/splitting the cat every time the counts change is unnecessary (and unproductive) hassle, in my opinion. I stay with my oppose.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 23, 2013; 14:20 (UTC)
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Category:Fighting type Pokémon

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The result of the discussion was: fainted delete. The Bushranger One ping only 03:41, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_January_11#Category:Pok.C3.A9mon_species_by_type —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional reptilian Pokémon

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Fictional reptilians. The Bushranger One ping only 03:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_January_11#Category:Pok.C3.A9mon_species_by_type —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lucio Battisti

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 03:44, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Only content in this eponymous category are the artist's albums which are all already properly categorized and linkable through Lucio Battisti. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 07:37, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:ObsoleteCategory

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The result of the discussion was: moot. Already emptied and C1'd. The Bushranger One ping only 01:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Roads in Atlanta, Georgia is sufficient. There are only one or two "streets" in Atlanta that are not "roads" so no need for this category which was mis-applied anyway. I've changed the category for the 6 articles listed here (of which 5 were roads not streets) and so the category is empty.Keizers (talk) 01:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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LGBT navigation by gender

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 03:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete.
These two categories were added a couple of months back to roll up the members of Category:LGBT people by gender. This seems to be doing nothing but causing confusion, as besides the usual run of people whose sexuality goes undiscussed in the article, everybody who is a direct member probably ought to actually belong in a child category; likewise, all the subcategories of these two are direct members of Category:LGBT people. Given those who try to deny a conventional gender assignment, I don't see how this particular division is well-advised. Mangoe (talk) 01:52, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportswomen from Sydney

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The result of the discussion was: keep. delldot ∇. 00:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary. Sportspeople aren't divided by groups by city and gender ...William 00:32, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ahem... did you even read the WP:ITSUSEFUL link you so helpfully pasted to "invalidate" my argument? The final sentence of that section explicitly says: "There are some pages within Wikipedia which are supposed to be useful navigation tools and nothing more—disambiguation pages, categories, and redirects, for instance—so usefulness is the basis of their inclusion; for these types of pages, usefulness is a valid argument." --99of9 (talk) 01:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sportsmen from Sydney

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The result of the discussion was: keep, taking into account the discussion for Sportsmen from Sydney above. The consensus for that one was clear, this one, as was remarked below, should be considered together with it. delldot ∇. 00:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary. Sportspeople aren't divided by groups by city and gender ...William 00:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fellows of the Royal Entomological Society of London

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The result of the discussion was: merge to match the article name and avoid duplicate categories. The Bushranger One ping only 02:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: They are the same organisation, but I'm unsure which is the preferable target category. Jack of Oz [Talk] 00:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as proposed given the current article name (which reflects real world naming). Mangoe (talk) 02:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge preferably as nom. I assume that there is no dab issue with the society name.
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